ironsofcanada
1:13 Thu Mar 21
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Alex V 11:37 Thu Mar 21
Where do you get that we are 15th in shots taken?
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Stubbo
12:47 Thu Mar 21
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Agree with Alex that we tend to create very little in open play, especially against teams that sit deep.
A lot of what we've done lately goals wise has been from set pieces.
No great surprise when we've hardly seen from Lanzini, Nasri and Yarmalenko...in a team trying to play posession football, it's only really Anderson in the side who can pick a true chance creating pass.
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Alex V
11:37 Thu Mar 21
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NewtonsPartyBag 9:33 Thu Mar 21
Yet we're 15th in shots taken. Either a bunch of our players are literally air-shotting the ball on chances, or we don't create much. It's the latter.
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the straw
11:04 Thu Mar 21
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brick_lane_batty_boy 9:33 Thu Mar 21
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Oliver Norwood is the player we should be buying as Nobles replacement
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Norwood will be 28 next month. We should be looking at top quality 22/23/24 year olds. If you're signing a 28 year old midfielder then they're going to have to be proven class which Norwood is not. Could see the logic if he was 5 years younger maybe.
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NewtonsPartyBag
9:38 Thu Mar 21
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Sessegnon is the only player in the bottom 3 at the moment that could improve us.
The rest can whistle, were supposed to be a team looking to progress ffs
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brick_lane_batty_boy
9:33 Thu Mar 21
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If there's a part of the field we have good cover in - it's that position behind the front man - Anderson, Lanzini and Nasri are all better than Mooy. He started the season well, went off the ball for 6months and now has had a couple of good games.
Avoid
Oliver Norwood is the player we should be buying as Nobles replacement
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NewtonsPartyBag
9:33 Thu Mar 21
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Alex V wrote...
Re: Anyone from the soon-to-be relegated clubs worth getting?
"Our midfield hasn't created much"
Absolute horse shit.
Anderson is top 8 in the chances created table, and we have been without our most creative midfielder since last June.
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Biggie Biggs
9:29 Thu Mar 21
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Don't see why everyone wets themselves about Mooy, he is fucking ordinary
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SDKFZ 222
2:38 Thu Mar 21
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At the weekend I read through a couple of Huddersfield fan forums and Billing received a right slating. He was called ‘lazy, useless’ and numerous other impolite adjectives:
“Will be glad to see the back of him, nowhere near as good as he thinks he is and we'll be lucky to get 10 million for him. If you start gobbing off in the papers then you need to back it up on the pitch. He hasn't done and has gone missing since the going got tough.”
“Flatters to deceive, looks languid and lazy at times, shows flashes of talent, but without any consistency, and is the type of player you want on the bench (as opposed to anywhere near the team) when the going gets tough!!”
“The frustration with billing is imho down to the fact he has real talent.....but doesn't concentrate long enough or work hard enough.”
“He's been shit recently, not gonna deny that.”
“I like Phil but he was lethargic and crap today, given up, wants to be elsewhere.”
“I hate this kind of footballer. Lazy, ill-disciplined, spoiled. Head has gone down at the wrong time...the mark not of a man but a bottler.
Application and no talent can succeed. Talent without application never succeeds.
Big time Charlie.”
There are many others but I can’t be asked to cut and paste any others.
On the basis of that, it’s a no from me.
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blindman
1:19 Thu Mar 21
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Aaron Mooy all day long. Looks frustrated at the lack of quality around him. Would improve our midfield. Carries on the recent tradition of signing antipodeans, too. Can't have too many skippies and kiwis, I reckon.
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crystal falace
6:00 Wed Mar 20
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I Imagine we could get Mitrovic for significantly cheaper than Jiminez will be costing Wolves and yet he's 3 years younger,
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Alex V
5:46 Wed Mar 20
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maverick 2:25 Wed Mar 20
Our midfield hasn't created much, so I can't agree with that. Mitrovic is very decent imo and would do a job, but for the amount we'd have to pay to get him he doesn't hit the target enough for me. No value there.
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maverick
2:25 Wed Mar 20
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With our midfield Mitrovic is 100% a 20 goal a season striker!
I would take Mitrovic over every striker we've been linked with thus far.
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Alex V
4:14 Tue Mar 19
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Lots of players in the bottom 8 who would be worth getting at the right price. Like some others I like Billing - think he has a lot of potential, but hard to guess what his fee might be.
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Sniper
6:30 Mon Mar 18
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I was astonished at how tiny Pritchard is - I honestly thought a mascot was still on the pitch.
Mooy is decent. In fairness the youngster who scored two was a threat all the time.
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the straw
1:08 Mon Mar 18
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Tom Cairney is 28 and so is not the age profile we should be looking at. If you're signing a 28 year old they need to be top quality already. I think people think Cairney is younger than he actually is for some reason.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
12:54 Mon Mar 18
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Fabianski has been excellent, but Heaton is better but is old and Mr Burnley and won't leave. Pope is not far off Fab and is much younger.
Pope it is, to compete for the spot, then.
Hart can fuck right off.
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tnb
12:10 Mon Mar 18
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Bit harsh Deano. Maybe not top 6-8 but I reckon Prtichard will be being looked at by a number of teams in the level just below that, which is where we realistically are right now. Mooy would probably be going to a top 6 side if he was a few years younger too, and could be worth a punt for someone albeit he will probably be asking for silly 'last big contract' wages. His time at Man City still confuses me, they clearly saw something in him and you can see why but it's not like he went there as a raw youngster, I think he was about 25 and they can't realistically have thought he would challenge for a place ahead of David Silva etc. But he has the technique and the brain to be a proper Premier League player, not scrapping around in a team trying gamely to avoid relegation. People have been raving about Billing but on yesterday's showing I have no earthly idea why.
Mitrovic would be an improvement on Carroll as at least he stays fit, but I too would like to think we are looking a level above that. Seri is an enigma, he was being talked up as a massive coup when Fulham signed him and maybe there is a better player in there playing in a less chaotic environment but I'm not sure I would take the gamble. But I suspect someone fairly decent may do so. Sessegnon I just can't see the fuss about. Looks every inch a 'too good for the Championship, not good enough for the Premier League' player (cf. Darren Huckerby) who I feel we will fairly soon be recalling as he approaches 30 and saying wow remember when he was the next big thing.
Can't see anyone from Cardiff. Camarasa may be worth a look if Betis are willing to sell, but I'm basing that largely on him tearing us apart the other week.
But that's between 2-4 players from the likely relegated teams (Pritchard, Mooy, Mitrovic, Seri) who I can see in the mid table teams next season, with perhaps Billing and Sessegnon tempting someone as well. Just because your team goes down doesn't always mean you are hopeless - as you say, Fabianksi proves that from last season, and I still like Rondon too. Still, it can also be the case that players are genuinely hopeless but look decent in a bad team and get talked up- no one wants to sign the next Alfie Mawson (we really dodged a bullet there).
It's also worth considering the players from the 'almost relegated' teams who may be looking to move to a more established side. From Southampton for example, James Ward-Prowse is easily a mid table player and for me deserves an England chance ahead of Winks, and Matt Targett to replace Masuaku would be a very decent upgrade too. Robbie Brady is a class act as well, although it's hard to see where he would fit in our current squad (he's not going to displace Anderson on the left of midfield, and neither he nor Cresswell are going to be happy being second choice at left back, so signing him would probably create more issues than it solves). But he is another player who is much better than his current team's position suggests. And from Newcastle I really would take the aforementioned Rondon as an upgrade on Carroll, and a better one than Mitrovic in my opinion.
If Villa don't come up then Abraham may be worth a look. McBurnie will likely attract a lot of attention from Premier League clubs in the summer too, I suspect.
There is value out there.
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WHUDeano
11:36 Sun Mar 17
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Interesting question is this, with the current squad & manager in place my initial reaction would be say 'no'. Those days should be behind us and not one team in the top 6 - 8 would look to those teams to improve their own squad....However there is always one who might be able to step up, I probably wouldn't have considered Fabianski as a number 1, but then he's come in and shown he is top level - does he have the concentration for a top top club? who knows - but he is good enough for most outside of the top 2 and genuinely looks top class.
Realistically it's going to be Cardiff, Fulham, Huddersfield. Mitrovic is the obvious one, but strikes me as a forward who will get 10-12 a season max and we already have that. Fulham are a team worth looking at though - a terrible defence can detract from decent midfielders, and having spent £100m on players, there must be one or two in there to upgrade on our current back ups (Obiang).
In regards to the other two, I'd wager that not a single midfielder or forward will move on to another prem team - let alone one trying to break into the top 6.
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Biggie Biggs
11:27 Sun Mar 17
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If we go for shit like Tom Cairney we may as well just accept that the top half is all we will ever achieve
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Pedro
10:29 Sun Mar 17
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Tom Cairney and Declan Rice would make a great midfield partnership.
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